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5 Budapest Klub weblapja (mind)  43 sor     (cikkei)

+ - Kyoto 2: the NGO perspective (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Kedves Kornyeszek!

Ujabb Kyoto-beszamolot jelenthetek be, a CEU-n!  Sajnos, ismet
angolul (mint az egyetemunkon altalaban), tehat ime az angol
ertesites (nyugodtan terjesszetek a remhirt):


Encouraged by the success and questions raised at
the Kyoto talk at the CEU today, Zsuzsa Foltanyi from the Energy Club
has agreed to come and give us the non-governmental perspective of
what happened, and what could have happened in Kyoto.

You are all welcome to attend.

Date:       February 10, Tuesday,   3.40 pm

Place:  CEU Auditorium

Title:  The Kyoto Climate Negotiations:  the NGO perspective.

Speaker:  Zsuzsa Foltanyi, ENergy CLub, Hungary

Dr. Urge-Vorsatz Diana
CENTRAL EUROPEAN UNIVERSITY
Nador u. 9, Budapest

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Dr. Urge-Vorsatz Diana
Professor of Energy Policy
Dept. of Environmental Sciences and Policy
CENTRAL EUROPEAN UNIVERSITY
H-1051 Budapest
Nador u. 9
Ph:  (36-1) 327-3095
     or     327-3021
Fax: (36-1) 327-3031
+ - meadows-rovat (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

JUNK MAIL IN A TIME OF DECLINING TREES

You know how sometimes bits of information come at you from unrelated
directions and conk you on the head with an unexpected pattern?  It
happened to
me last week.

First came a letter from Mary Zabriskie of Putney, Vermont.  A year ago
she got
fed up with the flood of junk mail coming at her.  "I decided to keep
all the
catalogs that came from January 1 to December 31, 1997," she writes.
"The
enclosed photo shows what came of it."

The picture shows a smiling Ms. Zabriskie, one arm resting on a stack of

catalogs that reaches to her elbow.  There are 371 of them, she writes.
They
weigh 104 pounds.  The worst culprits are: Vermont Country Store (27
catalogs),
L.L. Bean (26), Earth Care/Real Goods (20 -- those guys should know
better!),
Land's End (20), J. Crew (17), Eddie Bauer (16), Garnet Hill (15).
If we assume Ms. Zabriskie's household is average, 100 pounds of
catalogs times
100 million American families makes 10 billion pounds or 5 million tons
of
paper per year.  The postal service admits to 4.6 million tons -- over a

thousand pieces of "bulk business mail" for every man, woman, and child
of us.

I could complain about all that unbidden paper filling our dumps (less
than
half is recycled).  I could remark on a startling statistic gleaned from
the
Web that each of us spends 8 months of life opening junk mail.  (I don't

believe that number, because I never open mine.)  I could give Ms.
Zabriskie
the standard advice about contacting the Direct Marketing Association
(1120
Avenue of the Americas, New York NY 10036-6700) and asking to get off
junk mail
lists.  (Why do we have to request NOT to get this stuff?  Why don't
they have
to get our permission to send it?)

But the piece of the picture that jumped out at me was the trees.  A
hundred
million trees a year are ground up to supply the paper for our junk
mail.

I wouldn't have been so sensitive about trees if we hadn't just had an
ice
storm that left the forests fifty miles north of me and/or a thousand
feet
higher than me bent and broken, the hillsides covered with jagged stubs
where
whole trunks snapped.  The papers are predicting a flood of downed wood
coming
to the mills, followed by a long scarcity.

And then the foresters came to my class.

Scot Zens has his forestry degree from the University of Washington and
is now
working on a Ph.D. in ecology from Dartmouth.  He's measuring long-term
growth
patterns in the forests where he grew up on Vancouver Island.  Kathy
Fallon
Lambert is a graduate of Yale Forestry School and now directs the
Hubbard Brook
Research Foundation.  Her job is to compile ecological research on the
forests
of New England and make that information available to the public and
policymakers.  I invited them because my students were trying to sort
out the
arguments they were hearing about whether forestry in the United States
is or
is not "sustainable."

Kathy and Scot spoke of our many different kinds of forests, their
various
species and age structures and growth rates, and possible definitions of
the
word "sustainable."  They were giving us numbers and graphs, being
careful and
scientific.

Toward the end of the period I tried to pin them down.  In their private
but
professional opinions, do they think we can keep on cutting indefinitely
at the
rate we're cutting now?

A short silence.

Then Scot got up and drew a graph on the board.  "Here's something that
scares
me," he said.  He showed the actual cut in Washington and Oregon over
many
decades, with ups and downs as the market turns, but an overall downward

direction.  Then he showed the official estimates, made every ten years,
of the
expected sustained yield from those forests.  The studies that determine
this
theoretical yield are very thorough, involving forest censuses and
computer
models and land management plans.

His graph showed that every ten years for decades now the calculated
sustainable cut -- the rate at which the forests can go on yielding wood
over
the long term -- has gone down.

"Why?" we asked.

Partly because of forest land being cleared for other uses, he said.
But
mainly because of cutting the standing stock faster than it is growing
back.

By this time Kathy was at the board, saying, "I've just seen a graph
that
scares ME."  She drew a line that rose steadily and then leveled off.
"This is
the biomass of trees in the Hubbard Brook watershed (in New Hampshire)
since
the 1960s," she said.  The trees had been growing happily for decades,
and then
something slowed the rate of biomass buildup way down, nearly to zero.

"What?" we asked.

No one knows for sure, she said, but scientists think it's air pollution
and
acid rain.

Clunk.  The pieces fell together in my mind, and out popped a great big
WHY?
With the forest stock going down in one of our major forests and tree
growth
rates going down in another, with expected future cuts decreasing, WHY
are we
using a hundred million trees a year to pelt people with advertising
they
mostly don't ask for, don't want, and don't even look at?

(Donella H. Meadows is an adjunct professor of environmental studies at
Dartmouth College.)
+ - kerdesek El Nino ugyben (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Kedves Kornyesz bongeszok!

Talan akad koztetek olyan, aki meg tudja valaszolni az alabbi  egyszeru
kerdeseket:  Mi okozza ezt a sokat emlegetett El Nino-t? A mostani
idojaras
szelsoseges megnyilvanulasainak tenyleg ez a misztifikalt El Nino az oka

vagy van valami mas ok is? Ha valakinek vannak epkezlab valaszai, kerem,

ossza meg velem is!

Koszi!!

Balint Tamas

+ - Gyulamaros (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

Kedves Meszaros Laci!
Koszonom higgadt ervelesedet. Az ujabb hagai dontessel kapcsolatos
erveid jol j
onnenek a Horn kormanynak. Ha mutatja,hogy meg akar egyezni, de megsem
sikerul,
 mind ket oldal vitorlajabol kifogja a szelet. Ez jol jonne a kovetkezo
valaszt
ashoz.
Ugy erzem, hogy ma mar tobbrol van szo. Europa, ahova igyekszunk a
megegyezest
varja, elsosorban tolunk, akiket tobbre is ertekel. Bar milyen kormany
legyen
is hatalmon ezt nem hagyhatja figyelmen kivul. A 74-es meg a 90-es
dontest is s
zerencsetlennek tartom, de nem lehet meg nem tortentnek tekinteni. Na
ennyit a
politikarol.
Szemelyes kotodesem is van Dunakilitihez . Anyam szulofaluja, gyerek
koromban s
okat boklasztam a "szigeten" ma is ott el vagy 20 unokatestverem. 91-ben
lltam
 a teljesen kesz zsilipen es belesajdult a szivem, hogy micsoda erteket
kell ve
szni hagyni. Az ott elo emberek - persze jol felfogott erdekukben -
szeretnek m
ukodtetni. Belathatatlan  elonyoket hozna a tersegnek turisztikai
szempontbl i
s. A termeszet ily merteku feltese indokolatlan. Az sokkal bolcsebb
nlunk, min
dig megtalalja a megoldast, ha hagyjk. Ha elmegy  200 llatfaj majd jn
helyet
te 300. Az ertektelen fuz helyett jon ertekesebb fauna. Tetszik nem
tetszik Mec
siar mgtt a szlovaksag 30 %-a all, szamukra Gabcsikovo allamisaguk
szimboluma
 . Nekunk Nagymaros bukasa, a rendszervaltas szinboluma. Nos ezt a
csomot kell k
ibogozni. Ha van jo otleted meghallgatom.  Udvozol   Nits Gyula.
+ - Budapest Klub weblapja (mind) VÁLASZ  Feladó: (cikkei)

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                    - - -   36. szam   - - -  (III. evf. 1998 febr. 4.)

                              TARTALOM   (14 ezer leutes)

E szamunk a magyar szarmazasu Laszlo Ervin altal alapitott nemzetkozi
Budapest Klub egy anyagat hozza mutatoba.

A Klubrol egyoras film ment az MTV1-en febr. 1. vasarnap 10 orakor.

A Budapest Klub weblapjan - amelyet a Bocs Alapitvany keszit es igy cime
a
http://bocs.hu - a Klub bemutatasan, programjan, tiszteletbeli tagjain
kivul tobb iras is talalhato a planetaris tudatrol.

Web helyek a MAI-rol (Multilateralis Befektetesi Megallapodas) es szokas

szerint egy kornyezeti nevelesi konyvismertetes is szerepel e
szamunkban.


1. Roviden a Planetaris Tudatrol

2. Lingelbach, Jenepher: Ismerd meg a termeszetet. Modszertani segedlet
a
gyermekekkel vegzett kornyezetmegfigyeleshez

3. Web helyek: a keszulo MAI (Multilateral Agreements on Investments -
Multilateralis Befektetesi Megallapodas) nemzetkozi torvenyben rejlo
veszedelemrol (leegyszerusitve: a jog a globalis gazdasag eroit,
erdekeit
a demokratikus strukturak fole keszul helyezni - a szerk.)


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